1 (edited by lyra 2004-07-08 19:52:43)

Topic: The Spiritual Evolution of Animals

Nifty little article by Stuart Wilde, written last month.  I didn't see it til tonight.   Thought I'd pass it along because I know there are a lot of animal lovers here on the board. I'm always conflicted though when I read stuff like this, because I love animals...but I eat meat. I'm in no way a vegetarian.   And with O+ blood, I don't think I can be vegetarian.  I've tried, but I need meat or I start feeling wacky in the noggin, like dizzy and foggy headed, weak and lethargic.   If I go long enough without sufficient animal protein I start getting MAD cravings for burgers, no pun intended regarding mad cow disease wink   but then I feel very guilty when I eat them because I do realize that the beef industry is corrupt and the cows suffered.    At any rate, this is a good article, concerning the soul evolution of animals, meat eating, the human condition, and other random thoughts all woven together in the usual Stuart fashion.  smile 

http://www.stuartwilde.com/Articles/SW_ … nimals.htm

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Lyra,
I loved this article too.

I'm lucky as an AB, a vegetarian/vegan diet suits me the best.  I do know Os though who really need their meat/protein.  So, I think you are making the "correct" decision.

Have you tried Kosher meats?  I'm pretty sure Whole Foods sells them and I believe the "correct" slaughtering of the animal is part of the kosher process.

WR,
Christine B.

3 (edited by lyra 2004-07-27 09:29:08)

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Hi all,

As a post script to my starter post I wanted to add some C's transcript excerpts pertaining to animal evolution.  Thought it would be a nice supplement to the Stuart Wilde article. 

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March 4, 1995:

Q: (J) Is there any significance to the fact that one of our cats has been looking like she is really trying to tell us something?
A: One of your cats, no, make that 2 of your cats, are close to transition to 3rd level.
Q: (T) Sabrina's moving up in the world, she's going to get a promotion. (J) What's going to happen to her when she hits third? She's going to be a human?
A: Yes.
Q: (J) Wow. (T) When she moves from cat to human, her cat body will die?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Is this going to happen some time in the near future as we measure it?
A: Not concept, we mean at next incarnation whenever that occurs. By the way, who gave her that name?
Q: (J) What name? (L) Sabrina? (S) The cat's name? (T) Two of our cats? (L) Maybe. (T) They are third density candidates. (J) What about the name?
A: Exactly.
Q: (L) Does that mean that when a person is a 4th density candidate that they have to leave their body to go to 4th density?
A: Yes unless they are in the body when the wave arrives.
Q: (J) What about the name? (T) Do you mean who gave the kitty the name?
A: No.
Q: (T) Oh, you mean why did I name that particular cat? It's not Sabrina?
A: ? There are 2 candidates.
Q: (T) So, you are not going to give us the name. (J) Is there any significance to the bahavior that the cat, Sabrina has been displaying?
A: Maybe.
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At this point, just when it was starting to get good, Laura changed the subject.   She always had a knack for doing that!    sad   It's one of the things about the transcripts that can be frustrating.  Oh well.

Another interesting exchange pertaining to animal souls, from November 7, 1994:

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Q: (L) Are there any other physical creatures on planet earth which have souls?
A: All do.
Q: (L) Is the human soul different from, say, animal souls?
A: Of course.
Q: (L) Are there any other physical creatures on the earth which have souls like human souls? On the same level, so tospeak?
A: No.
Q: (L) Well, I have heard that dolphins, porpoises and whales have very advanced souls. Is that true?
A: All souls are advanced.
Q: (L) But are whales sentient, thinking, self-aware as humans are?
A: Apples and oranges.
Q: (L) Well, since whales are so big, do they have bigger souls?
A: Irrelevant.
Q: (L) Is there some way to communicate with whales or dolphins and can one find a way to translate the differences and have a reasonable, intelligent exchange with a whale or a dolphin or even an elephant?
A: You don't need conversation "with" when a higher telepathic level.
Q: (L) Dolphins and whales communicate telepathically?
A: Yes. So do dogs and cats and snakes etc. etc. only humans have learned the "superior" art of verbal communication.
Q: (L) But, at the same time, verbal communication can be quite limiting, is that correct?
A: That is the point.
Q: (L) So, you were being sarcastic with me, weren't you?
A: Humorous.
Q: (L) Do whales form long-lasting bonds and feel love?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do dogs feel love?
A: Dogs feel need as love.
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Anyway, just some interesting material to supplement as food for thought.   smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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This is good stuff. I read a book a while back called "The Nine Emotional Lives of Cats" by Jeffrey Mousaioueff (spelling right?) which is the best, most unsentimental but loving cat, or for that matter animal, book I've ever read.
I meant to mention it before. Maybe there's a book thread I should be mentioning it on. Anyway, he writes very well about the cats he adopts, and their antics include jogging on the beach with him.

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SednaSphere wrote:

This is good stuff. I read a book a while back called "The Nine Emotional Lives of Cats" by Jeffrey Mousaioueff (spelling right?) which is the best, most unsentimental but loving cat, or for that matter animal, book I've ever read.
I meant to mention it before. Maybe there's a book thread I should be mentioning it on. Anyway, he writes very well about the cats he adopts, and their antics include jogging on the beach with him.


Cats are amazing, that's for sure.   One of my neighbors has these two big fluffy long haired black cats which walk with her when she takes her dog out for a walk.  It's absolutely WILD.....the dog's on a leash (cause dogs are crazy like that and will run off with their tongues hanging out, grinning from ear to ear....)  while the cats walk freely, trotting along with her!!!   They're well behaved, and act like dogs, but without the hyper craziness.   I've never seen that before though, cats going for a walk with their owner and following along like dogs.   Cats usually don't do that.   It's cool to watch.   I call those cats the Muppet Cats, because they look like some frazzle haired Jim Hensen creation.  One day I was sitting around in my livingroom, and suddenly saw one of the black cat's heads pop up in my window, all frazzly, looking just like a Muppet going "Hello!!  Here I am!!"   It was adorable.   I went outside and sat down and it came over and started rolling around, giving me its belly.   Very cute.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Sounds adorable. There's an orange cat across the street with eye"brows" that go straight across the top of her eyes, so she looks kind of stern in a zen sort of way. But she meows and lets you pet her. There used to be a male cat with the same expression who was so funny, as this "don't mess with me" expression on this adorable nice cat is just hilarious. I think the male cat must have been the father and this one is the daughter. Like father like daughter, in this case!

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Okay, some more interesting stuff I found in the transcripts pertaining to pets and souls and all that:

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Q: (L) Now, I am curious about the doggie image that was on the aura photo that MM took?
A: In these times, 2nd density creatures will collect more and more attachments.
Q: (L) Are these attachments like other entities?
A: Yes, and others.
Q: (L) When they are collecting these attachments, are they collecting them from us, as in protecting?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are they being used to collect attachments to be detrimental to us?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) You mean we are gonna have to do depossessions on our dogs, too? (V) Holy Toledo!
A: That won't work.
Q: (L) Why are our animals picking up attachments?
A: Because of vibrational frequency intensifications.
Q: (L) Is there something we could do? I mean, are we supposed to get rid of pets?
A: We would never suggest something as harsh as this. However, beware: 3rd density STS orientation includes the thought of "dominion" over 2nd density, and this is merely a continuation of the energy buildups of the approach of the
wave... Some of the lessons are interesting indeed. When you assume that capture and imprisonment of those of lesser capacity than you is for "the good," why should not you expect those of greater capacity than you to assume the same regarding you?!?
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Thought the part about pets having an intensification of vibrational frequencies was interesting.   Probably due to extensive interaction with humans? 

Something from the Seth Material regarding this very idea:

"Animals, as any pet owner knows, have their own personalities and characteristics, and individual ways of perceiving the reality around them.  Some gobble experience.   Their consciousness can be immeasurably quickened by contact with friendly humans, and emtoional involvement with life is strongly developed."

- Page 306


And from the Ra Material, more confirmation of the same thing:

"Perhaps the most common ocurrence of second-density graduation during third-density cycle is the so-called pet.   For the animal which is exposed to the individualizing influences of the bond between animal and third-density entity, this individuation causes a sharp rise in the potential of the second-density entity so that upon the cessation of physical complex the mind/body complex does not return into the undifferentiated consciousness of that species, if you will."

-Pages 183-184

Interesting!   It's always neat when multiple sources all say the same thing.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Great exerpts lyra. This subject fascinates me. Hopefully with increased telepathic ability, I will be able to study it in more elaborate "first-hand" detail.

SednaSphere wrote:

Sounds adorable.

You want adorable? Take this!!

http://64.177.61.22/killer_dog.jpg

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lyra wrote:

Q: (L) Is there some way to communicate with whales or dolphins and can one find a way to translate the differences nd have a reasonable, intelligent exchange with a whale or a dolphin or even an elephant?
A: You don't need conversation "with" when a higher telepathic level.

This seems true for trees as well...

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Many years ago, while visiting marine world in northern California I did have an interesting "encounter" with a whale.  Can't recall what particular kind it was, but it was bigger than the usual black and white ones that are usually seen.  Anyway, the whale part of the show ended and we all filed out, I noticed that there was a good sized peep hole that the animals could look out and the humans could also look in.  Well, this big whale had his eye looking out checking out whatever.  Our eyes locked, we both just looked into each others eyes and just stared for a couple of minutes.  It felt like he (or her) "knew", like it had some sort of innate wisdom.  I felt such a deep sense of sorrow, the whale seemed to be very sad and depressed, I felt overwhelmed and had to fight very hard not to cry, but the sense of was conveyed was SO strong that I did anyway (cry).  To this day I have never visited a place like that again.  It breaks my heart too much,   

How people blurt out "dumb animal",  is beyond me.  We have a lot to learn from our "different" brothers and sisters.  Just because they cannot do the same stuff as humans do does not make them any less.  Perhaps they may be laughing behind our backs  snickering "hey man, these folks forgot how to talk"!

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

11 (edited by Auendove 2004-07-11 08:59:36)

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ermolai wrote:
lyra wrote:

Q: (L) Is there some way to communicate with whales or dolphins and can one find a way to translate the differences nd have a reasonable, intelligent exchange with a whale or a dolphin or even an elephant?
A: You don't need conversation "with" when a higher telepathic level.

This seems true for trees as well...

ermolai,

Ahhhh... the trees, I've found them to be great communicators of energy, conduits or catalysts if you will.  There is a particular oak tree at my favorite river, the Rainbow River, where I go kayaking.  Don't laugh, but this oak tree, along with some kind of greater force wink, a few months ago taught me to do healing work through what I call "Tree Whispering".

The first time I did this I was out of my kayak and found this lovely not overly large oak tree that lives at the edge of the river, its roots going into the water.  I had been sitting there quiet and meditative, and I had my Sugalite stone with me.  I was thinking about a friend who was feeling bedraggled and drained.  I suddenly felt moved to/compelled to turn to the tree and whisper this friends name into the tree.  So I did. 

Through a series of emails with this person after this incident we came to find that the product of this tree-whispering was a rather swell energy boost for her!  I had not used a Reiki symbol one, just only my loving intentions and nature... this very, very special oak.  Neither one of us had a clue that a healing session could be accessed in this manner, but somehow I think the oak knew <winkle~twinkle>.

I've since done this but a few times because I only get there so often, the Rainbow River's over an hour away.  It's a way cool head spring river, the clearest blue and aqua blue water you can see... and you really can see fractal rainbows in the water when the sun shines at the right angle, it's just that clean. 

The last time I tree-whispered there something really interesting happened--after I finished the whispers the cicadas started up with their characteristic sound, all at once the sound went extremely fast and high pitched, like electricity can sound, it then stopped all at once... one second later the large birds in the area, six of them that I could see (!) came out of the trees, started calling out and flying off, it looked and felt like they were acting as "messengers".  It was rather much a "wow" moment for me.  Aside of the cicadas and birds the river was very quiet as it was still early and the influx of human animals were still sleeping.  It was very obvious that the cicadas and birds were a part of whatever it is that was that tree-whispering moment!

I adore this oak tree so very much, I step directly from the kayak to the tree and embrace and kiss it like I would my son.  Yeah, I'm an unashamed tree hugger from way back. big_smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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manyeagles, thanks for sharing bro.

My mind is always creatively thinking of stories for short-feature films, and I was just thinking how refreshing it would be for your story to be portrayed as:

Your higher-self manifested to many beings on Earth. In this case, two meet, one incarnated as a boy at an aquarium, while the other is incarnated as a whale "at" the aquarium. The latter gives the boy a look through the "peep-hole" and tries to telepathically communicate, but unfortunately the boy's body isn't developed to a high-enough level to recieve such communications. Instead the boy locks his attention with the whale intuitively, and recieves emotions that are translated as remorse...The End.

Well, anyways, I just wanted to say that, because I think it is a beautiful story. And the best part is, I can put on the bottom of the title as "Based on a true story!". Muhahahha!

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Blackbox,

Thanks for the pic.  Very cute!   smile

Oh.....and manyeagles isn't a "Bro".   Manyeagles is a she.  Not really proper etiquette to call women Bros.

Thanks to all for your stories!   Auendove, I'm going to find out where the Rainbow River is, since I'm here in Florida as well.  Maybe I'll check it out one of these days!  Sounds awesome.  smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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14 (edited by Auendove 2004-07-11 09:42:52)

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ms. manyeagles,

It must be story hour for Auendove--

One time after I had just started my training with Reiki, about nine years ago, a friend called me frantic, she had a very sick rabbit.  I went over there not really sure what to do, but I took this little juvenile rabbit into my hands and prayed.  At one point we locked eyes, my two with its one.  My heart sank with the pain and fright I saw and felt there.  I thought of St. Francis of Assisi, immediately understood that there was no hope, and silently "asked"  the rabbit to just let go and pass, that it was okay.  A few moments later he passed.  It was an intense moment peering into his eye... I know what you're talking about.

When we go to the flea market the "bird booth" is off limits for me, I cannot contain myself.  I first get upset and am moved almost beyond control to go set them free, free, free... and then because I can't I'm overwhelmed with sadness fighting back tears, my heart breaking.  It's just too hard for me. sad

One time I was in a pet store and there was this baby Pink Cockatoo, and it was howling at me, I'm tellin' ya it was miserable in that cage.  It was sooo young.  I called a clerk over and told them how unhappy the bird was, they told me it was just being dramatic... just being dramatic?  What a crock of you know what.  To make a short story shorter, my mate had to escort me from the store because I was starting to come unglued with the clerk.
To end on a happier note--

One day I was at the river, we were kicked back in the kayak just floating down river.  I was playing with the clouds, cloud-busting them into simple animal shapes.  My boyfriend commented that there was a dragonfly storm (a large amount of a flying critters in one place zoom-zooming around) and I laughed out, "I wish I was a dragonfly so I could go play in the storm!"  A moment later this big ole fat grandaddy of a dragonfly flew right to my nose, bumped my nose, buzzed me for a second, and then flew off.  My mate and I rocked the boat for laughing so hard with surprise!

When we settled back down and I returned to playing with the clouds a few minutes later and a huge turtle cloud had formed, just out of the blue!  It's funny, I had been working on one large cloud trying to shape it into a, Snicker! Snort!, dragon! big_smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Lyra wrote:

Oh.....and manyeagles isn't a "Bro".   Manyeagles is a she.

^@%#*!!!

My apologize Ms.manyeagles.

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Lyra, I honestly can't leave this thread without looking at Fluffy once (or twice). I want my own puppy! sad