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#31 2006-06-03 07:08:25

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#32 2006-06-03 09:06:34

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Re: Sun Gazing

Interesting to note that the increase in skin cancer is proportional to the increase of use of sun protection lotions/creams.

The Healing sun by Richard Hobday
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/189917 … p;n=283155


Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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#33 2006-06-03 14:34:04

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Re: Sun Gazing

Cool the Sun eater

on Sunblock.....its unnatural.....another example of artifice


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#34 2006-06-15 08:42:28

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Re: Sun Gazing

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ORMUSandSpirit/

10. Ormus as Intelligence--SunLight as Intelligence
    Posted by: "seekverta"
    Date: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:19 pm (PDT)

Dear Barry,

I have read all the references which you directed to be read...several
times. And I also know that this is a controversial part of the Ormus
discussion. I just happen to have a personal view on this, which is
what I expressed.  And, I knew it would raise some questions, which in
the long run I believe can be beneficial.

You wrote: There is good scientific evidence that ultraviolet light,
as in sunlight, converts sea water precipitate to toxic metals.

When you said: ‘...ultraviolet light, as in Sunlight‘,  The first
thought that came into mind was: that comparing a Man-made high
intensity coarse UV-producing Black Light to SunLight, is like
comparing a burlap feed sack to fine silk.  I can assure you that any
UV rays from the Sun (if there are any,...remember that’s man’s
definition) are not as in an industrial or commercial black light.

The rays of SunLight are divine, creative, healing and very subtle.
And the human eyes can be trained and conditioned to intake this light
without harm. The Sun’s rays are in an infinite subtle spectrum, and
perfectly blended just like I believe pure Ormus to be.  And I have to
go on with much of this opinion, my gut feelings, and personal
knowledge and in-depth experiences, not science. 

When I first started Sungazing, for example, most people thought I was
nuts, that I would harm my retinas and eyesight, that I would go
blind...I never did any harm for any length of time, even Sungazing in
Saudi Arabia for up to 3 hours a day, (after much conditioning). My
eyesight only got better, stronger to the point I was able to see
auras around people, animals, and plants, and call birds to myself,
and go without food for months at a time.

I remember one time standing in the parking lot of my condo in
Southern California watching a total eclipse of the Sun bare-eyed,
somewhere around ‘89 or ‘90 about 11:00 am.  I began to hear lots of
murmuring around me, then someone tapped me on the shoulder and offered
me some smoked glass or something,  I said no thanks, I’m fine.  They
then jerked my arm and said don’t look at the Sun, it’s not good for
you...I said it’s OK. Then a crowd gathered around me and started
yelling at me to stop. I said, No, really, I know what I am
doing...they insisted I did not, and several people tried to grab me,
they were so adamant that I stop what I was doing, looking into the
Sun bare-eyed.  These people were ready to beat me for following my
own conscious and heart, and not follow their misunderstanding.  They
could not do what I was doing...and so they wanted me to join their
incapability.  I had been Sungazing for a couple of years by then.

And this brings to mind the idea of ‘sincere intent‘, which is so
important in making Ormus, or when doing anything, for that matter.
In Sungazing, my intent was always for my own personal development,
becoming more holy, more righteous, more enlightened, personally.  Not
to have abilities others didn’t have, or be able to impress others, or
perform miracles. Though I have, and know several others who do, and
can. I already mentioned my experience with Essenes, and when reading,
Josephus, Pliny the Elder, and others you will know the Essenes were
avid Sungazers, and very pious (pure) in their sincere intentions.
They are also the one of old who made Ormus, from the school of
thought of Akhenaton of Egypt, also a Sungazer.  To them Ormus, and
SunLight were parts of the same divine substance.

I had come to learn that SunLight intaken optically after proper
preparation and conditioning, in a disciplined, spiritual way; with
proper desire, a pure heart, and a ‘real’ sincere desire, brings only
growth, higher spiritualization of the human organism, and building of
the Light body.  I believe God, whoever or whatever anyone perceives
him to be, is Light ...and that we can only become closer to him if
we are more and more capable of growing in Light, and that has been
my sincere intent, with
both Ormus and SunLight. I believe pure Ormus to be made of Light, in
its entropy from SunLight.

The greatest avatars, prophets, the desert fathers of early
Christianity, Siddhartha Gautama (Buddha), Jesus, Krishna, even
Mohammed (Sura Nur, Koran), spoke of Light and the levels of Light and
it’s benefits to enlightenment, and they all lived in deserts or high
altitude areas, where Sunlight is prevalent...and every one of them
had a personal relationship with the Sun.  So that’s my mindset in
speaking of Sunlight.
I have never been harmed by it, and in placing Ormus in direct
SunLight, which I sometimes do with that for my own personal
consumption, I have never had even the slightest hint of metallic.

So as I read the references to UV on the Subtleenergies site again, I
kept wondering about the ‘sincere intent’ of those doing the
experimenting and testing.  There is such a normal and usual interest
of almost everyone who comes to Ormus, or engages themselves in the
study of Alchemy and its many facets, about the possibility of
transmuting Ormus, or any of the PGMs and transition metals into
‘metallic’ gold. Wow! Imagine it!  The very thought of it, or its
possibility, is exciting, intriguing, and fascinating. I’ll bet we
could not find someone who has not yet entertained these
thoughts, and the mystery of it. So I believe most people have this
idea firmly planted in their minds, somewhere back there.

We heard the stories of how your friend Jim used ozone and black
lights to convert certain substances to gold metal, and about his
connection to the gold mining industry in collecting gold from the
slag or chemical waste products of mining...trying to clean the mines
up, I believe. We also heard about the man calling himself the Essene,
and several others, and how he was involved in converting (or trying
to) Ormus materials
to gold to show that it could be done.  And I believe it was he who
described how King Solomon did it anciently.  So there must have been
certain ‘great intention’ involved in those several and many attempts
by those men as they searched and experimented in ways to make or
recover gold. ‘Intention’ as we all know, in quantum physics terms,
often determines and can directly effect the outcome of the
experiment. I know this truth is critically true even with home-made
Ormus.  My use of SunLight in my own personal-use Ormus, is done
with the intention of better quality Ormus, more charged Ormus, more
spiritualized Ormus, more enlightened Ormus. And I know the Sunlight
can do that. So my intention may be slightly different than those
other experimenters. I don’t even own a black light.  And that’s why I
have found Jesse’s and Deb’s results in dowsing so validating of
something that I never said much about, but truly believe.

I would say though, knowing what I know about SunLight, if I wanted to
make gold from Ormus, I would expose Ormus to the after-meridian
(afternoon) SunLight, because that Light affects physical
characteristics much more. I also really wonder if any of the
experimenters in the Subtleenergies references ever really did
experiment actually using SunLight, or did they only come to their
conclusions, about UV light, after seeing what a course black light
emitter did to the material, and then just extrapolated, that if the
man-made UV does this, then Sunlight must do it too.

If that's what they did, then I would proffer that theirs is probably
not the correct extrapolation. Remember, all the Sea Salt, and other
salts people are using have been sun dried. The salt waters and brines
used by others, have all come from areas where those material have
been continuously drenched with intense SunLight. Isn’t it possible
that the reason why the most concentrated Salts on Earth (Dead Sea,
Great Salt Lake, Tibetan) are more concentrated and have more Ormus in
them, is because they are from areas which have the greatest
concentrations of SunLight falling upon them.  Some may say it’s
because of evaporation, so I say re-hydrate or dilute them, and you
will see these Salts from those intense SunLight area sources still
have greater concentrations of Ormus in them. I think the SunLight
does that, concentrates or creates additional Ormus just as JMAC and
Deb’s dowsing suggested that SunLight gives birth to Ormus; and that
SunLight is the perfect vehicle for Ormus. I agree with their summation.

Your references included the point that toxic metal levels were
increased by UV light.  Again I take it that it was man-made high
intensity coarse black light that did this? And not divine and subtle
Sunlight?  That information also shows why a person must be certain of
their source materials.  Why would someone want to make Ormus from a
material already knowing that there was Arsenic or other heavy metals
in it any
way?
 
I believe in caution, Barry, but I do not believe in fear.  We should
be cautious in everything we do, and I try to be. Maybe this
SunLight-UV issue is an area in our Ormus exploration which should be
revisited, because I believe the references given; are not the final
story and do not tell the whole story.  We must remember that fear and
worry are very strong intentions also; some of the strongest, with
several potential consequences, including creating the very thing we
worry about. 

So to the many Ormus makers, before you make a batch of Ormus, make
sure you know your source materials, and be very sure about what’s on
your mind, what you are worried about, what your ‘true intentions’
are.   May I suggest before you do a batch, or your
next batch, get up early a few minutes before dawn, spend a few minute
preparing your self by meditation or prayer, then watch the Sunrise
for 10 or 15 minutes...fill yourself with that divine dawn Light. Fill
yourself with that dawn SunLight; cleanse your mind and thoughts.
Then go make the best Ormus you’ve ever made.

All the Best,

Seekverta
www.TibetanGold.com

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#35 2006-06-15 10:56:34

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Re: Sun Gazing

I was just out sungazing. I got alot of water in my eyes when i started doing it but it got alot easier afterwards and i spent around 20-30 seconds looking at the sun. Its 14.00 clock so its almost midday. Not a good idea to start on mid-day big_smile I hope i didnt damage my eyes or sumthing. tongue

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#36 2006-06-15 15:57:01

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Re: Sun Gazing

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/capblog/2005/03/22/mr_magoo.jpg
The first step is to sun gaze at 12:00 pm, what will be next ?
Go to the zoo and jump/enter into the lions cage…
Or go to the beach and walk above the water…

Well, the very first/last rays are ok.

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#37 2006-06-15 16:30:11

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Re: Sun Gazing

wink

I've always been rather sun tolerant so i doubt it did any damage tongue

Other than perhapse get a suntan in my eyes *laughs* big_smile

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#38 2006-06-16 05:45:21

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Hkelukka, please do it either first thing in the morning or last thing before sunset!! smile  There's probably no damage from just one time, but even if you're a 'professional' I think there is not enough filter in the amosphere to do it during the main part of the day...

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#39 2006-06-16 09:40:03

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Re: Sun Gazing

What is strange is that when i was a very small kid i used to do it on the yard for very long times, infact, i even looked at the sun with binoculars big_smile Suppose my eyes aint what they used to be tongue

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#40 2006-06-17 01:44:02

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Re: Sun Gazing

Who is " Our " in reference to love?
Send e-mail
I don't often get back to threads


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#41 2006-06-17 01:49:55

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Re: Sun Gazing

a good practice to incorporate with sungazing is some kind of pranayama work..but be careful if you are sensitive because this work can be really powerful...
love Myrrhi

 

#42 2006-06-17 06:20:51

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Re: Sun Gazing

When I see the first rays of sun in the morning I focus
on Christ, also when thinking in Christ I imagine a Sun. smile


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#43 2006-08-04 03:48:47

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Re: Sun Gazing

I take off my glasses so I don't get glasses line

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#44 2006-09-02 05:51:01

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Re: Sun Gazing

From:

DNA MONTHLY

your FREE online resource for cutting-edge news about who you truly are

September 2006 (Vol. 2, No. 8)

Notable & Quotable: 'DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid, the basic substance, which takes the form of a double helix, found in the nucleus of every cell which is associated with the transmission of genetic information) is a specific vibration of light that comes from the sun and becomes matter. Every kind of life on Planet Earth, from the stones to humans, has a specific vibration from light that comes from the sun. Each plant, animal, virus and bacterium has a specific ray of light. It is condensed by Mother Earth and the information carried in the light becomes matter. This reproduction is the method whereby the silent knowledge is passsed down from generation to generation of different life. DNA is specific to every form of life. Science has not yet differentiated the subtle distinctions in forms of DNA.'

Don Miguel Ruiz as recorded by Mary Carroll Nelson, Beyond Fear: A Toltec Guide to Freedom and Joy (Council Oak Books, 1997)


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#45 2006-09-05 08:38:15

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Re: Sun Gazing

From 'The Ancient Art of Self-Healing' by Yogi Bhajan:

Sun and Moon Gazing

What can you look at the sun? When the sun is more than 10 degrees from the horizon, it should not be looked at directly. Looking at the sun coming up and going down, when it is less than 10 degrees from the horizon, is very good, very health, beautiful. But when the sun is high and projective, it is very damaging to the eyesight. Looking at the sun when it is projective can make you blind, it will totally break down your retina.

Some people love to look at the full moon. That's the worst thing to do. It is even wrong to look at the reflection of the moon in the water. Just look for awhile, see the moon, it is beautiful; then sit in that light. That is a wonderful meditation. Don't peep at it. Casually it is OK, but don't start doing tratakam with it (gazing into the eyes of a Master), it will get you. It will make you topsy-turvy. It will make you beserk.


"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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