Re: George Washington
Mandalis that was a great post. It's a reminder to me, if i needed one, why the forces of disinfo and control fear a well educated populace and why they work so hard to make morons of everyone [ except themselves ]. I'm not an American citizen but i have been very interested in the whole subject of the origins of the USA it's past and current trials and it's destiny. Where the aspirations of Americans go, so goes much of the world.
I hope you can stick around and contribute what else you have on this and related subjects.
On the issue you brought up on religious symbolism and mythology :
David Icke [ innocently i believe ] and others, insist that all the religious mythology and symbolism past and present is an invention by either or both of 2 parties :
1) 'IGNORANT' VILLAGERS [ PAGANS ], as a function of economic survival and as a groping attemp to codify, certify and then DEIFY natural phenoemena.
2) BLOODLINES, in order to communicate with each other, to mask themselves, and to hex and curse the rest of us.
David Icke also suggests that ALL the worlds known religions were initiated by these ancient Illuminati forces for the purpose of mind control, which he believes is evidenced by their illuminati symbolism and/or by their limiting belief systems.
Icke has done a huge job on exposing the dark forces opposing humanity [ reptillian or not i dont know ] But I think he gets a few things wrong on this. If i've understood him correctly, i think that the thing he get's wrong is hugely wrong.
My question to Icke is this, "In the field of spiritual thought / Science of Mind [throughout history], where are the the 'Good Guys' ???
In David Icke's historical account :
a) there are none except for the downtrodden masses.
b) there are none if you don't count the fictitious 'Son of God' religious figures east and west.
If i have also understood Icke correctly, he is exposing a force against humanity which is, in my own words, not merely 'relatively evil' [ as is most of humanity with it's progams overlaying the real self ] but is 'absolute evil' incarnate [ cold blooded contemptous beings who are spiritless or who have self-extinguished any remnant of inner spirit in themselves, and their sychophantic agents.]
In that i agree completely. I know Icke believes that the antidote to this absolute evil is the real Self within ourselves. I agree completely. I believe Icke is awakening to the knowlege of the real Self and the enemy to that reality within and without.... We all know that he is, and we may not all share all his definitions of the threat... that's ok.
But does Icke imagine that he / we are waking up for the FIRST TIME to all this ? That no historic figures have awoken COMPLETELY and had a PERSONAL VICTORY over these dark forces within and without ? Or that no-one who has done so has left a record of same for us ?
Does David Icke imagine that the religious symbolisms in art and text have no ESOTERIC RELEVANCE other than as exoteric tools of mind control by dark forces ?
Is David Icke supposing that because dark forces have infiltrated and made institutions of all these historical religious approaches [ ie. Hinduism, Christianity and buddhism ] that therefore they must all have been false starts from the start ?
How does he know for example that the pre- christian symbolisms relating to Sun / God ... Eternal Life... Ressurection... Set... etc was not originally divined by spiritually awake souls among the villagers [ pagans ] and that they brought these symbols forth drenched in esoteric spiritual meaning ? Were they trying to tell us something deeper ?
" Let he who has [esoteric] ears... let him hear "
Isn't it possible that deep spiritual truths that relate to the individual's spiritual relationship to the universal spirit are clothed in those original 'myths'? .... and that they were carried forward and renewed throughout history through succeeding Son of God figures such as HORUS, HERMES, MITHRAS, KRISHNA, JESUS etc ?
And that sometimes a REAL individual took on the ROLE of the SON of God figure in order to demonstrate what the 'whole SON / SUN 'myth' really means?? ... and to ADD SOMETHING NEW to the basic 'myth' for [then] contemporary humanity ?... To CLARIFY THE INEVITABLE DISTORTIONS that inevitably erode the ESOTERIC MEANING of the 'myth' over time ? To initiate new souls in order to carry forth a true understanding of the real meaning of the 'myth' ?
The IRONY is that on the one hand David Icke is awakening to all the elements of the basic 'myth' in his own life but he doesn't recognise that THAT SAME 'MYTH' which he trivialises in the historical accounts, is arising from his own subconcious and is NOW HAPPENING TO HIM. [ or at least it is beggining to happen to him ]
Here is what i mean by that.
Begin by examining the following elements of the myth. These same elements have been embellished with new symbols over time to reveal essentially the same thing. Tell me if you dont see their CURRENT relevance for Icke, mandalis and for yourself. Because THE 'MYTH DESCRIBES AN ETERNAL INNER PROCESS.
Ironically, tell me if you don't hear Icke speaking to you through his books :
"The MOST HIGH is KILLED by SET"
The Most High is your spiritual Self in the spiritual plane . It is the HIGHEST vibrational level of yourself in spirit and is immortal. It cannot be killed but a part of it can be. That part that can be KILLED is the SOUL, which is a projection of the spiritual Self 'clothed' in material bodies [physical/emotional/mental/etheric].
The spiritual energy which flows to the soul from the spiritual self can also be KILLED. That is, it can be TRANSFORMED from a high LIFE VIBRATION to a lower DEATH VIBRATION.
The dark forces can only occupy the lower 3 material planes but that is where we are vulnerable to being " KILLED" by the forces of death [ many of whom are described by Icke ] who seek to steal our lifeforce by trying to lower our vibration.
A 1001 ways have been devised to force this light energy from humans but they ALL cause that energy to SET in a lower matrix. Most of humanity enjoy the process of being milked and have therefore become SET in their ways. It is because the ENERGY itself has become SET in our SUBCONCIOUS HABIT PATTERNS.
When this process [ of falling in vibration ] happened eons ago the Spiritual self [ I AM Presence ] projected an IMAGE of itself [ THE SON / SUN of GOD ] into the lower planes to act as mediator between the fallen soul in matter and the I AM Presence in spirit. That spiritual SUN / SON CONCIOUSNESS is that same higher part of YOURSELF that Jesus affirmed in HIMSELF. THE CHRIST or KRISHNA or ....
Jesus never claimed exclusive SONship. And let's not get so caught up on terms which describe the HIGHER SELF. Whatever you prefer to call it, it is your inner HIGHER CONCIOUSNESS just the same.
The last great exemplar of the SON / SUN OF GOD 'myth' was Jesus. He personified the 'myth' to demonstrate to the world what it means to fully embody the higher Self. I am not saying Jesus was the only person to merge his soul at the human level to the Christ Conciousness within and ascended.
Many people had accomplished it before then and since then. They awoke to the dawning rays of the spiritual SUN within themselves. By identifying with the inner SUN presence of the higher Self they have all, like the man Jesus, overcome the DEAD forces in their subconcious by trasnsmuting it in the light of the inner SON.
A portion of the light of the SUN / SON within us all has been SET / BLOCKED / LOCKED in our own subconcious for 1000s of years. You could say that portion of the SON within us IS DEAD. Yes we have CRUCIFIED the inner spiritual SUN by locking a portion of those radiant energies into spiritually DEAD FORMS of HATRED, ENVY, GREED, FEAR, DOUBT etc .... all the elements of the HUMAN EGO.
The problem is that, it is those vibrationally fallen parts of self that most people identify with now. They can no longer believe that the Kingdom of God [ the Conciousness of God the SON / SUN ] is within themselves. The false priest classes either don't know it themselves or they are lying in order to control the people. These wolves in sheeps clothing had moved into each religion in it's infancy to distort the TRUTH THAT WOULD SET US FREE.... that sounds like a book title David Icke could have written.
Anyway, we have come to think of these spiritually 'DEAD' ENERGIES that comprise the human ego is 'ourself'. Although it appears real we are mistaken in that belief.
This is where the myth is helpful again as a vessel of truth over 1000s of years. To help free us from a limiting mental box. But it is not enough to understand it conceptually...
"The SON has been KILLED by SET"....
"The SON RISES AGAIN to ETERNAL LIFE" ...as i began to explain.
In order for the DEAD [crucified ] SUN within us to RISE again to FULL CONCIOUS AWARENESS the crucified energies have to be redeemed. That is AN INNER PROCESS OF TRANSMUTION that must happen. When will that begin? It will begin for each person when we are ready to seek and find the inner Kingdom [conciousness] of God... the higher Self. That process involves the RESSURECTION of the DEAD energy so that it rises in vibration [ ASCENDS ] back to it's native state in the spiritual plane.
That DEAD energy must be unlocked through a lifelong process of surrender to the will and guidance of the inner Spiritual SUN center of your true being. As that happens, the vibration of the SOUL [ SOLAR awareness of self as the inner spiritual SUN ] will rise even as the vibration of the lower vehicles of soul expression also rise. The lower vehicles i referred to earlier are the physical/astral/mental/etheric bodies.
Notice there are 4 lower bodies ? We have these bodies to express ourselves now in the 4 planes of matter. We do so with every thought, feeling, word and deed. The [inner] SUN energies that we use for these expressions have very often not been expressed in our lives as pure 'sunshine'... if you know what i mean.
So instead of pure spiritual SONSHINE blessing the soul and the world, then rising back to spirit, these energies have become CRUCIFIED ON THE CROSS OF MATTER by simply being lowered in vibration ... Draw a square. Draw a cross in it diagonally. You have the top view looking down on a pyramid. See the 4 sides? Those 4 triangles are the 4 bodies of your material self which corespond to the 4 planes of matter. It was pure love energy from your spiritual Self but now it has become CRUCIFIED on the CROSS of matter fire/air/water and earth.... KILLED BY SET...vibrating at a lesser rate than it was before you gave negative expression to it. But it can be redeemed by the redeemer.
So the REDEEMER figure in these 'myths' is the mediator WITHIN YOU... the SUN / SON conciousness must RISE AGAIN WITHIN YOU. There is no other way to redeem / ressurect the lower elements of ourselves from the material plane but to seek and find the light of that inner Self. The alternative is to remain in the material planes until we do. Would you say the truths contained in the recurring 'myths' are important? I reckon i would.
It should be clear that what ive been describing and what the recurring 'myth' is describing is the same INNER PROCESS. That is the supreme value of it. We can thank those who stood up to "authority" and gave their lives to keep it alive. Jesus lived and taught that very same inner process but his true teachings were distorted and grossly misrepresented by the enemies of truth. The story of how that happened is fascinating in itself.
The 'myth' has endured because it has been energised and re- energised by certain people over a very long period of time. Our spiritual teachers have kept the 'myth' alive because it is TRUTH ON MANY LEVELS OF INNER AND OUTER REALITY. Don't underestimate the spiritual intelligence of our forbears.
David Icke does a good job of exposing the mind of antichrist in the enemy. But he gives no credit to the spiritual gems of the past. This is understandable because he has not found them in the past even though they are abundant. He has not looked past the exoteric meanings and deliberate distortions nor read any of the great authors who have. Unfortunately it has caused him to dismiss some people with whom he could have concord.
I think David Icke's perspective on ourselves at all levels is very much the same as the ancient 'myths' he rejects.
Given that he is saying the same thing anyway I think his greatest dissapointment would be to be misunderstood in the same way that he misunderstands.